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[thx1138]

that was boring - football on the radio

[DavidTheAlien]

2-1 get ffuking in there 19 points ahead of Liverpool, pressure on City now

really riled up from that especially with that twat.

Sublime second half from united pitty about the goal.

Edited by DavidTheAlien, 11 February 2012 - 02:42 PM.

[DavidTheAlien]

oooh interesting and very different interviews with Dalglish and Fergie

[Bazza`]

Certainly not unterested in hearing what that prick Dalglish has to say.

On a football front very pleased overall but dissapointed we let them get into the game at the end as they didn't deserve it. Valencia had Enrique over a barrel all game, Welbeck was ffukin outstanding, Rooney second half was brilliant, our supposedky weak midfield bossed and dominated a FIVE MAN Liverpool midfield for the second time (as they also did against Chelsea) and De Gea nad a second game without incident which was nice. With lots of players still missing too. Its looking good, I feel as though we have a lot to feel positive about at the moment, all we need is Jones back to win the balls in the air.

[Leeroy]

Mark, on 11 February 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

Right I'm done, Suarez is a ffuking tit, he is an idiot, he could of shook hands and ended it, now he looks like a petulant child and Evra looks like the bigger man. Dalglish should of shut up months ago, the statements from the club were a ffuking embarrassment. I have supported Liverpool for their worst spell in recent history, a time dominated by our biggest rival but it took the new hero of the kop and the all time hero if the kop to make me feel embarrassed about being a Liverpool supporter for the first time in my life.

Fair play, Sparko. Suarez's attitude is disgusting.

Arrys son makes me laugh. Rios challenge on Suarez was a clear tackle yet he claimed it as a foul and a sending off and with Suarez he tried to deflect from the hand shaking incident by claiming footballers shouldn't shake hands before a game. It's only been happening for 20 years Jamie without any problems.

Not sure I've ever hated someone in football before but Suarez is a horrible, nasty human being. He is scum and the sooner he's out of the league the better.

As for the game. We bossed it and like Baz said, I was annoyed that the sweat was on near the end because Liverpool created nothing and deserved nothing. Good football has been back for a while now but we've lost and drawn doing it, so it's good to get the win.

[Bazza`]

Also great to see Carrick keeping his form up, he can be a pivitol player on his and be almost unnoticed in doing so. Top stuff from him.

Still laughing that people thought Scholes wouldn't cut it too

Also loved Evra's celebrations

Also Fergie is spot on, Suarez should never play for Liverpool again that should be it for them (yeah thats going a bit far but his behavior is an embarrassment). Although it wont because his manager has behaved even worse and his comments after the game were sickening. He's another who should be gone for his role in escalating all of this.

Still going to try and ignore those two pricks and focus on a good win and being top of the league for the time being UNITED!

Edited by Bazza`, 11 February 2012 - 07:14 PM.

[Panto]

Kenny Dalglish is a ffuking tosser. "You can't blame Suarez for what happened today", "I didn't see Suarez not shake Evra's hand, it's contrary to what I've been told". He is an absolute tosser of a man, no wonder people like bic and RUT and SillySteven love him, he is exactly like them.

[Sandy Cheevie]

Suarez acted like a petulant child and further damaged his plummeting reputation but Evra’s behaviour was appalling too.
If Evra had any class or dignity he would have just ignored Suarez as he walked past him without offering his hand, he didn’t instead trying to grab Suarez’s arm and exacerbate an already heated incident

According to reports it was Evra who caused the problems in the tunnel by approaching Suarez and insisting on a showdown.

Evra again had to be told by the ref to stop his after match celebrations in front of the Liverpool fans.

Suarez is a complete tit!
But Evra is no better.

[Leeroy]

Sandy Cheevie, on 11 February 2012 - 07:32 PM, said:

Suarez acted like a petulant child and further damaged his plummeting reputation but Evra’s behaviour was appalling too.
If Evra had any class or dignity he would have just ignored Suarez as he walked past him without offering his hand, he didn’t instead trying to grab Suarez’s arm and exacerbate an already heated incident

According to reports it was Evra who caused the problems in the tunnel by approaching Suarez and insisting on a showdown.

Evra again had to be told by the ref to stop his after match celebrations in front of the Liverpool fans.

Suarez is a complete tit!
But Evra is no better.

Putting Evra in the same class as Suarez shows what you know and how you see things. If someone disrespected me in the way Suarez did to Evra I'd ask questions. Would you just stand there and think "I'll be the bigger man and do nothing"?

And it kicked off in the tunnel because Suarez kicked the ball into the crowd. According to reports

Celebrating the way Evra did wasn't the most professional thing to do but I can see why he did because he was clearly antagonised.

United and Evra have tried to bury this whole saga but Dalglish and Suarez continue to carry it on even though they were in the wrong.

[Bazza`]

I don't see why Evra can't celebrate like that, football is about enjoying those moments and he will have enjoyed that win as much as he's enjoyed winning all the trophies he has won. Again with the hand grab I think that was just out of annoyance and I'd have been annoyed to, at the end of day Suarez isn't shaking Evra's hand for the simple fact that Suarez used racial abuse against him. I mean Evra did nothing to deserve all this and had said he was keen to shake Suarez's hand so he could put it all behind him. He's right to be frustrated for me.

The tunnel incident will have been completely needles but they always are and nobody ever actually knows what happens in them. We'd have done Liverpool in the tunnel again had it come to blows though

Also Dalglish has been the worst in all of this for me, he's encouraged Suarez every step of the way and is still doing so now. Funny to see him back tracking now and refusing to talk about it any further - although no doubt he'll spout some further rubbish in his next interview.

Edited by Bazza`, 11 February 2012 - 08:00 PM.

[Grog]

No need for me to say my piece on Suarez the dirty little herbert. I agree with what has been said.

Bazza`, on 11 February 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

Also loved Evra's celebrations

I didn't. As Fergie has said that was wrong but I won't beat the guy up about it as he tried to be the bigger man from the start.

No coment on Kenny...

I wonder what the owners make of all this?

[Panto]

To be fair to Suarez, he did say last time that he doesn't talk to black people, so this shouldn't come as a shock.

[Leeroy]

Anyone else notice the lack of booing for Suarez compared to the booing for Evra at Anfiled? Sounds like I'm being biased but there was a noticeable difference.

[Sandy Cheevie]

Leeroy, on 11 February 2012 - 07:51 PM, said:

Putting Evra in the same class as Suarez shows what you know and how you see things. If someone disrespected me in the way Suarez did to Evra I'd ask questions. Would you just stand there and think "I'll be the bigger man and do nothing"?

And it kicked off in the tunnel because Suarez kicked the ball into the crowd. According to reports

Celebrating the way Evra did wasn't the most professional thing to do but I can see why he did because he was clearly antagonised.

United and Evra have tried to bury this whole saga but Dalglish and Suarez continue to carry it on even though they were in the wrong.

Yep I would have just ignored him and made him look the petulant fool he is.
Evra by grabbing his arm completely surrendered the high moral ground and proved himself to be no better than him.

Look the bottom line is Man Utd fans will all see Suarez as a low life and Evra as the victim, Liverpool fans will see Evra as the low life and Suarez as the victim.
I think that most neutrals will see the pair of them as being men of questionable character to put it mildly.

[Panto]

I don't think Evra has shown to be as bad as Suarez. I can't agree with that.

[Bazza`]

Sandy Cheevie, on 11 February 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

Yep I would have just ignored him and made him look the petulant fool he is.
Evra by grabbing his arm completely surrendered the high moral ground and proved himself to be no better than him.

Look the bottom line is Man Utd fans will all see Suarez as a low life and Evra as the victim, Liverpool fans will see Evra as the low life and Suarez as the victim.
I think that most neutrals will see the pair of them as being men of questionable character to put it mildly.

But why? What did Evra to deserve it? how is Suzrez the victim? They shouldn't be thinking that, our resident Liverpool fan certainly didn't have that opinion. I'd also be shocked and amazed if the neutral didn't see this incident as being all to do with Suarez. Most people will dislike Evra definitely but I can't see many neutrals holding anything against him as far as this whole race issue is concerned.

At the end of the day it's important to remember this isn't about United v Liverpool this isn't points scoring (no matter how much Liverpool have tried to make it seem this way) this is a player making an absolute mockery of the anti-racism campaign in this country. I know your not defending Suarez's actions in anyway but I don't think Evra, the victim of racial abuse in all of this, deserves to be judged too harshly for showing a little frustration in it.

If anything the one bad move Evra did make which I thought he was obviously wrong for happened about 20 seconds in when he flew into a tackle looking to take Suarez down immediately but luckily Rio ended up taking one for the team in landing on his face

Edited by Bazza`, 11 February 2012 - 08:13 PM.

[Bazza`]

Bazza`, on 11 February 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

But why? What did Evra to deserve it? how is Suzrez the victim?

To answer my own question, because Dalglish said so. That man has a lot to answer for.

[Sandy Cheevie]

Bazza`, on 11 February 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

But why? What did Evra to deserve it? how is Suzrez the victim? They shouldn't be thinking that, our resident Liverpool fan certainly didn't have that opinion. I'd also be shocked and amazed if the neutral didn't see this incident as being all to do with Suarez. Most people will dislike Evra definitely but I can't see many neutrals holding anything against him as far as this whole race issue is concerned.

At the end of the day it's important to remember this isn't about United v Liverpool this isn't points scoring (no matter how much Liverpool have tried to make it seem this way) this is a player making an absolute mockery of the anti-racism campaign in this country. I know your not defending Suarez's actions in anyway but I don't think Evra, the victim of racial abuse in all of this, deserves to be judged too harshly for showing a little frustration in it.

If anything the one bad move Evra did make which I thought he was obviously wrong for happened about 20 seconds in when he flew into a tackle looking to take Suarez down immediately but luckily Rio ended up taking one for the team in landing on his face

Hell I don’t think Suarez is the victim, I was saying that there will be Liverpool fans who believe he is, just like Man Utd fans will see him as the bad guy and Evra as the good guy.
All I’m doing is trying to bring a little balance to this debate. As I said Evra’s behaviour in this match was far from exemplary.
Suarez’s behaviour was piss poor but no surprise there, Evra’s behaviour today was equally poor, no surprise there either.
Dalglish has behaved abysmally throughout this whole sorry affair but despite Ferguson slapping himself on the back and saying how he has said and done the right things his after match comment today that “Suarez should never play for Liverpool again” was both unbelievably stupid and served no other purpose than to further inflame a difficult situation.

Look Liverpool deserve to be vilified and castigated for their handling of this whole sorry affair but to train the spotlight solely on them is to fail to see the whole picture.

[Mark]

Leeroy, on 11 February 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

Anyone else notice the lack of booing for Suarez compared to the booing for Evra at Anfiled? Sounds like I'm being biased but there was a noticeable difference.

Because Old Trafford is silent at the best of times.

[Panto]

No Sandy, I can't find a reason to agree with you; the person who was racially insulted was willing to shake the others hand, the perpetrator was not. A normal human being would have acted angrily to a situation where they are being protrayed as the liar.